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Yes thank you Jason for responding! Yes I have tried the Galaxy approach and as you predicted my dataset is too large to run an annotation locally on my laptop - about 157 x too large by my calculations. I would be happy to try your funannotate tool, but
my dataset is in Fasta, and I would have to run BUSCO to get my Fasta data into a different format? Because of the size of my WGS, that would likely have to be done on the HPC?
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<div class="">Although I do not have all the experience necessary to pull this off quickly, I am thinking about my experimental design and the steps that I will have to accomplish.</div>
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<div class="">I have a non-photosynthetic plant. I want to eventually find out how this plant functions differently from its fully photosynthetic cousin and if all related non-photosynthetic plants function in the same way. There are two annotated genomes
of closely related plants in NCBI: 1. another fairly closely related non-photosynthetic plant and 2. a fairly closely related fully photosynthetic plant. I do not have a clue as to how good either these annotations are.</div>
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in this plant. Once my WGS is annotated, I can then move on to compare the functional genes in both non-photosynthetic plants.</div>
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<div class="">So, these are the steps I must figure out to run this analysis on my HPC:</div>
<div class="">1. installation of necessary MAKER related bits of software? MAKER <font face="ComicSansMS" class="">version 2.31.10 is installed on my HPC, but I don’t know if all the associated tools are also installed (e.g. Augustus)</font></div>
<div class="">2. upload my assembled WGS in fasta format (from my limited knowledge I would need to use GlobusFTP?)</div>
<div class="">3. upload the annotated WGS of the fully photosynthetic plant from NCBI (again in Fasta using Globus FTP?)</div>
<div class="">4. upload the annotated WGS of the other non-photosynthetic plant (again in Fasta using Globus FTP?)</div>
<div class="">5. Run MAKER, using one or the other fully annotated WGS to train MAKER (or Augustus) to predict the genes from my non-photosynthetic plant</div>
<div class="">6. Use the ugly MAKER output data in GFF3 along with reports from InterProScan and a BLAST report of homology and script maker_map_ids to make pretty graphics</div>
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<div class="">Thanks again for any help you can provide. I wish there was an upcoming workshop I could attend to get into this process in a hurry!</div>
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<b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [maker-devel] Adapting MAKER pipeline for my HPC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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You might start with the galaxy install and tutorial or the cyverse one.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Not sure if the space needed will be too much for your large genome. To gain better help you might specify the problems you are having in running or installing?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: ComicSansMS, serif;" class="">Sorry to say probably not a new issue. I saw that MAKER is an easy-to-use genome annotation pipeline </span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">designed
to be usable by small research groups with little bioinformatics experience. That statement describes me to a t.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: ComicSansMS, serif;" class=""> I am new to Whole Genome Sequencing
and associated analysis, and have a limited skill set with computers. I have a a 1.52 GB, 75k unitigs, non-photosynthetic vascular plant assembly for which I would like to predict functional genes. </span>I have tried to follow the tutorial that you have
posted for Winter School 2018 to see if I can duplicate your installation and implementation for my HPC. <span style="font-family: ComicSansMS, serif;" class="">I doubt that you will be impressed, but I recently received a “certificate” for completing our
HPC Linux course path the University of Wyoming. . I realize now how much I don’t know and how much work it will take to complete an annotation, but I am needing to generate at least some preliminary data to include in an upcoming grant submittal (~2 months).
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<span style="font-family: ComicSansMS, serif;" class="">I am writing to get any help I can to find a way forward in my project. Any suggestions and any help you can provide would be gratefully accepted!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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